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« on: September 28, 2010, 01:26:52 PM »

Here is where I need to be educated, as follows... BR MGt. I seem to be a o.k. player as a faily new player online just about a year or so I have invested in learning the game. I tend to make itm sometimes. My opr ranking is somewhere about 56%. Minus the distractions at home I know I could be doing alot better. But it seems that every time I get a small BR, it is gone quicker than my last drink. Yes I like to drink. I know that home distractions Count for most of my losses but hell without em I would have to blame myself. And I would rather blame them than myself. O.K. I know, it's my fault and I am like a kid in a candy store with a few bucs. And my eyes tend to be bigger than my belly. So who can help me curb my appeitit :xhorse:e and stay right size accordingly to my BR. This past weekend i finished 3rd for 57.50 and now I have .19cents in my ft acct. Altough I mannaged to lose it all thats still up .3cents from last friday. No realy I need Br MGT. Help. Any takers?. Thanks, Freerollbird
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2010, 02:05:22 PM »

Well, to start you'll need a bankroll.  Freeroll it till you get at least 20 bucks, and then we can work up a plan.

But for educational purposes, I'll put a general cookie cutter plan for anyone:

SNG's :  Play SNGs with buyin up to 5% of your roll

MTT's:  Play MTT's wuth buyin up to 3% of your roll

Cash:  Always buy in full*, for no more than 5% of your roll.

*there are decent shortstack strategies you can play at, but they should not be used as a substitute for being rolled.  You will have much more variance which will affect the stability of your roll, so you'd need to be rolled as if you were buying in full.  At any rate, if you don't adhere to BR management rules, you certainly don't have the discipline to play an effective shortstack strategy.


I'll be glad to talk with you when you're ready and help you work out a plan for yourself when the time comes, just drop me a line.
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 02:19:40 PM »

Thank you, Six, I know discipline is where I lack. Hnsforth the post. And I will try to rebuild once more and when I do I will adhere to any advice given. Thank you for the fast response. My game is o.k., if not good and I do need BR MGT. to become a part of it. It might take me a month or more to get to a small BR But I do respect any advice that could help me to build it further. Like I said in my post when I get a few bucs I am like a kid in a Candy store. I am sure I am not the only one. But I do not want to be the norm as we all have seen a thousands times b4. Freerollbird
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 09:36:05 PM »

So what kind of help you need? Theres bazillions of resources out there for bankroll management, you know enough to know you arent doing it right hehe..

How can we help you? I know too many degens that are just gamblers, dont be them - they are always broke.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 08:09:28 PM »

go to the Full Tilt Academy and do the sit and learn on Bankroll Management.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 10:14:37 PM »

ok update, I took 6th place today at ub sunday 1k for 44bucs. gave it a rest than went hu for 5.25 holdem fl won ten bucs. Br now at 54.02. Where should I go next?. . Freerollbird
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 11:36:55 PM »

 . and another. Help, I want to manage my BR!. Freerollbird
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 12:52:43 AM »

  And again I play beyond my BR.. Freerollbird
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2010, 03:09:06 AM »

  at this rate I should be a Killbillionare. realy i get lucky once in awhile and am playing outside of my BR.. Freerollbird
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 10:27:56 AM »

Just stop.

You obv dont want help... You are a poker degen and its only a matter of time until you bust playing $10 HUSNGs... Even the best players have like 3% roi on those.

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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 11:12:47 AM »

Just stop.


That.  You got something right NOW you can get started with... safely.  If you play like you are, it'll be gone soon.  Right NOW you need to make a plan on how to grow what you've got.



You obv dont want help... You are a poker degen and its only a matter of time until you bust playing $10 HUSNGs... Even the best players have like 3% roi on those.

This is harsh, but he means well, and he's only saying it to get your attention.  He'd love for you to prove him wrong.  

Obviously, you do want help;  You asked, and you're putting your mistakes on display for all.  So clearly you want to be corrected, admonished, whatnot; whatever it takes, right?

You're there, sir.  You wanted to get started the right way;  you needed a roll to work with.  Now, you've got it (provided you didn't steam it off last night after your posts).  Before you do a damn thing, you need to make some rules you have to live by, so your roll stays safe.  

The tricky part will be sticking to it.  You may slip up from time to time.  If it happens it happens, but without even having a rule to guide you, you are basically enabling your own mistakes.  At least when you have a plan, you'll know when you're screwing up.  You'll have no excuses.
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2010, 11:05:46 AM »

Hey bud, I don't know how much BR you have - and don't really care.  I do relate with your problem I like to call "The Eleventh Chair".

A little background here about me..... I'm the Dad - in a 7 member Household - my Wife, and Five Girls ranging from 6 to 20. Pets - 2 Cats "Cody" and "Tiberius", a Raven "Mr Spock" Fish and cockatiels.

Speaking from experience, chicks are loud and drama, Wives always have some other than what you want to do, for you to do; and especially if it's poker. So no matter how empty the table you're sitting at, there is always that extra damn chair filled..... that is the base behind RossDaddy's "The Eleventh Chair" concept.

Bro I CAN relate.... and I DO seem to survive on skint amounts on various sites and skins.  Never is there an actual hour where you can allow yourself to be completely disconnected from your family duties, and when you can, you notice the better outcomes and more numerous itms.

I'd like to toss out just three maybe four things I do to defeat some of the factors that come with the eleventh chair.

sometimes the distractions only serve to dissuade you from good poker, and no matter how much you "think" you want to play, you been set off kilter just enough for it to matter in your game play and so, you may have even been defeated before you got to pay your entrance.  Often, this will send you into the spiral that says, aww I can get it back and you pay and pay and pay again until you've "committed" your BR.  This is bad.  If you want to play and play and play, play tourneys. - envision your chips as cash instead of 2000 chips - play cards - get5 some hands in get a feel for your day.  Don't throw good money after bad - if you're having a tough go of it, stop.   Live today to play another day.

Stop for a few hours and come back to it.  I Play Pogo.com - I upgraded my free membership to premium using "Coke points" - (I collect the points off the 12 packs and 2 liters - enter into the web and taa-daa - spend em on pogo)....... or I play forum games...... goto Facebook, screw around there, watch a netflix - Play Wii, etc.

Anyway - having that extra chair at your table should help you learn BRM much faster than those other guys who are sitting in their chairs without any distractions, and just think about what their thinking would be with those distractions playing live that you're already used to.

BRM includes using a distraction device for when your rhythms are low (having a bad streak of cards, getting rivered time and time again, DonkeyPoo happens). Those are some of the distraction devices I use. I know this may be a little fragmented, but I just barfed it up here.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 03:13:06 PM »

  (provided you didn't steam it off last night after your posts).  Yup I ended up doing just that. And a couple more times since. Build it up just to throw it away. I thank you all for the feedback harsh or not, it's all good and gives me a good mirror to look into. I will try and learn from my mistakes that I continue to make. It's like auction fever, you set a limit on how much to bid but do not honor the limit. Sorry to let ya all down but most of all myself. I don't want to be the guy that thinks this time will be different. My track record shows I lack the the abillity to quit while I am ahead. And that I am playing above my br. D a mn I hope I get this straight. One good thing is that I am not chasing by depositing more money. All my losses have been freeroll wininngs, not that it makes it ok to lose but lessens the hit. I should think of my winings as money that was very hard to come by and i have to defend a thief from stealing it. When in reality I am the thief. I have been robbing myself of the opportunity to grow and become a better player. Thanks all I will post more when I make some progress of sustained nature. Thank, Freerollbird
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2011, 11:22:40 PM »

Back on track. I have had some small sucess in the freeroll areana of late. Now once again do have a small very small br.last week I had less the 7cents. Hit a private freeroll for 4.13 itm lost half at ring game. and decided it was time to put forth a plan and stick to it. I didnt know that the one day ironman freeroll was there. All You have to do is get 1 ftp point per day and you qualify for the 2k gtd fr.so having lost half my br the on the first i got my point needed. Then discovered that the .10c1kgtd rbu pays u 1 ftp for a ten cent buyin i get 1 ftp. Cool so with 2.70 left in my br i chosse to play this game evryday for febuary. And with some luck maybe a cash or two along the way. My goal is to enter the ironman one day freeroll. . Freerollbird
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2011, 01:20:50 AM »

Then discovered that the .10c1kgtd rbu pays u 1 ftp for a ten cent buyin i get 1 ftp. Cool so with 2.70 left in my br i chosse to play this game evryday for febuary. And with some luck maybe a cash or two along the way. My goal is to enter the ironman one day freeroll. . Freerollbird
Great plan. Stick with it. Best of luck.

Let us know how it pans out.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2011, 03:59:21 AM »

Ty , Fletch. I'm still on track at tilt and do have enuff br to finish out the month for the oneday ironman fr next month. In the meantime i also play some smaller rooms. and have had some success with fr's. Tonight i played a .25c rebuy and here are the results. . Freerollbird I finished 3rd. one buy in two rebuys and one addon.
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