"Bitar bluffed his player-customers and fixed the game against them as part of an international Ponzi scheme that left players empty-handed."


fkn rigged

 

Im still waiting for my shirt. Its been about 6-7 years now.

You read it right or else I'm reading it wrong...


I'm not sure where OP is getting "surrenders" from.  Looks to me like he was dumb enough to set foot on US soil and the DOJ was well informed of it.  Perhaps he was set up, but either way there's a leak.

Dont you think I look like Joe Hashem?.

 

There's just a ton about this I don't get.  Why did he surrender in the first place?  Even before he was basically facing life in the pen, he still had the potential of years to serve.  Why he wouldn't stay nice and cozy with no threat of extradition in Ireland is beyond me.

I think if he was facing extradition it would be in about every article on his surrender, and I have not read that. That doesn't mean the surrender was voluntary. It was probably part of the FTP/DoJ/Poker Stars deal. All I know is whatever sympathy I had for Bitar (after all, he was originally indicted because he allowed US players to play poker) was lost when I learned that he and Burtnick paid themselves millions after BF.

True but probably misleading.  Granted, it seems pretty obvious FTP was never gonna pay us.  But that doesn't mean our chances are any better now that the DOJ stepped in. 

I'll give them credit when the checks show up.  But they seem to kebash every deal to make FTP viable, so I'm not exactly brimming with confidence.

Tilt has a roughly $300 million dollar shortfall.  Everyone isn't getting paid back; no one is pulling a 9 digit sum of money out of their ass to pay Tilt's debts.  It's silly to think that's even feasible.  So is it not better to accept partial payment than none at all?  That deal Tapie offered was what I'm referring to, and obviously anything Stars offered didn't suit the DOJ either.  So they'll eat the liquid assets in fees (they are claiming tens of millions in fines and damages) and we won't see dime one.

I'm not saying it isn't FTP's fault.  I'm saying the DOJ isn't our knight in shining armor.  I highly doubt they're going to get us a penny back.  I don't see why one would expect that they will, given the circumstances.  They don't seem particularly interested in helping us recoup our losses.