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October 13, 2011, 02:31:42 AM »
I tried to withdraw on 11/7/09 for $100. when the previous withdraw eventually was recieved, I went for $500. Then for $1000. I was eventually going to go for a $2000 withdraw, and so on.... I was always waiting for a failure or a win before attempting another withdraw. I have always had money in the works as far as a withdrawing goes, from the first request of that initial $100. I have been blessed with a total of $600 since my original, and non stop, 1st withdrawal from FullTilt!
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Kennedy and Omotoy are taking another shot at suing FTP:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/10/la-class-action-suit-seeks-900-million-from-full-tilt-poker.html
These guys tried unsuccessfully two years ago after FTP seized $80K from their accounts for violating FTP's TOS. Seems like they are trying to piggy back onto the fed's "Ponzi" scheme civil complaint.
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Here is another lawsuit:
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-card-counting-robots-lawsuit-against-tilt-poker-seeks-900-million/
These guys claim they lost $120K on FTP to "card counting robots". They are looking to get $900M.
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Quote from: TheDarkElf on October 22, 2011, 08:21:29 AM
Here is another lawsuit:
http://paidcontent.org/article/419-card-counting-robots-lawsuit-against-tilt-poker-seeks-900-million/
These guys claim they lost $120K on FTP to "card counting robots". They are looking to get $900M.
This one makes me laugh. Never heard of card counting robots except in Blackjack.
Now if they had said bots then we have something.
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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/former-ftp-employee-speaks-swedish-forum-1115961/
This is the most interesting thread in weeks.
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This one also
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/ftp-employees-answer-questions-1116371/index5.html
Look at post #62
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From pokerfuse.com
French magazine with Tapie Ties Surveys Full Tilt Players
According to multiple player reports, the French Magazine LivePoker has been calling players with money stuck online with Full Tilt, asking them to make a hypothetical choice on how they would like to be repaid – including the option of taking shares in Full Tilt, or a slow release of money over a year.
Poker-Red, the Spanish poker community and news site that first reported the story, states that the French magazine conducting the interviews has links with Full Tilt investor Groupe Bernard Tapie. The owner of the magazine George Djen is also the founder of FullFun Company; FullFun partnered recently with the Bernard Tapie group to set up Tapie’s other poker venture, the International Stadium Poker Tour.
During the phone interview, players were asked to pick from three candidate options on how they would like to receive their funds, noting that the options are “to reduce the amount of money needed to relaunch the business.” The three choices given were:
Buying shares of Full Tilt with part of their funds. Players would be able to sell the shares back to the company at a later date.
Cash out immediately, but with an unspecified penalty.
Cash out the full amount, but released over a period of year.
The surveyor noted that there was a “growing rumor” that Full Tilt could re-open “within weeks,” and asked players if they would play on the poker room again if it were to come back online.
It is unclear why Spanish players have apparently been targeted in the survey, although at the time this story was published, unconfirmed reports were coming in of players from other European countries, including Germany and Belgium, receiving the phone calls as well. Apparently only players with sizable bankrolls stuck on Full Tilt are being called, suggesting the surveyor has access to the FTP player database.
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From pokerfuse.com
US Department of Justice Green Lights Tapie Acquisition of Full Tilt
The US Department of Justice and Groupe Bernard Tapie has reached an agreement that would allow for the acquisition of Full Tilt Poker, according to an email sent from Ray Bitar to shareholders.
Although the specifics of the deal are not yet available, the DOJ would re-reimburse US players and settle outstanding civil litigation if Group Bernard Tapie repays players outside of the US and pays the DOJ an unspecified sum.
“With DoJ’s consent now in hand, [Group Bernard Tapie] may now proceed to finalize an agreement to acquire the companies or assets that comprise FTP,” writes Ray Bitar in an email to shareholders. “That agreement will very likely address the status of your shares or interests in the successor company. “
Full Tilt first announced that an agreement had been signed with the French investment group back in September, and Laurent Tapie, Managing Director of Groupe Bernard Tapie, said the poker room could be back open as early as January 2012. One week ago, a French magazine with ties to the Tapie group conducted a phone interview with European Full Tilt players. This recent news is another step in the right direction towards the reimbursement of over $200m in player funds.
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http://www.subjectpoker.com/2011/11/breaking-gbt-doj-deal/
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Multiple sources have confirmed to S:P that the following email went out this morning to Tiltware shareholders from Ray Bitar:
Dear members,
I am pleased to announce that today the Department of Justice and Groupe Bernard Tapie have reached an agreement in principle regarding the acquisition of the companies comprising FullTiltPoker. My understanding is the deal provides that in exchange for an agreed upon payment by GBT, and a GBT commitment to assume responsibility for payment of ROW players, DoJ will reimburse US players and settle the outstanding civil litigation with the companies comprising FTP. Beyond these conditions, issues like the time frame and process for repayment of players remain unclear at this point and time.
With DoJ’s consent now in hand, GBT may now proceed to finalize an agreement to acquire the companies or assets that comprise FTP. That agreement will very likely address the status of your shares or interests in the successor company. When I receive that agreement, I will coordinate with our attorneys to ensure the terms of that proposed agreement will be shared with the membership and voted on.
-Ray
^ Pretty much the best-sounding (and most informative!) "press release" (or equivalent) during this whole FTP mess.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/ftp-discussion-thread-everything-but-big-new-news-goes-here-cliffs-op-1089355/index800.html#post29603804
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I heard that something happened with GBT and the DOJ recently. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
It's a done deal. Not even the idiots at FT can ruin it.
It is the best possible outcome to the horrendous mess the idiots caused.
The man inside my head told me so and he has never been wrong my entire life. I posted about this on 10/21.
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The deal will happen and is the best of all possible options at this time and going forward.
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The DOJ reimbursing US players
Sounds like they probably gonna give it over to the IRS and or try to prosecute for illegally playing.
I don't look for any money any time soon, then will have to prove winnings-loses to IRS after they add penalties and interest that should not apply to those who have been paying taxes on them as they should.
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My guess is that GBT wanted the DoJ to release some frozen money so they could reimburse all players, but the DoJ wasn't having any of that. I do not think anyone will be prosecuted for playing online poker, but I do think y'all will get all your money back, minus the tax.
Players get their money back, GBT gets to say they're repaying ROW players, DoJ gets to say they're getting back US players' money, everyone wins.
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Quote from: BOYNAMEDSUE on November 02, 2011, 06:43:26 AM
Players get their money back, GBT gets to say they're repaying ROW players, DoJ gets to say they're getting back US players' money, everyone wins.
^ true dat! Like the stuff I quoted just above, seems like this (if true) is really the best possible solution for all parties, including players. And it's possibly gonna be a fait-complete by the the end of the year, wow...
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Quote from: Sand Wedge 100 on November 02, 2011, 06:21:21 AM
The DOJ reimbursing US players
Sounds like they probably gonna give it over to the IRS and or try to prosecute for illegally playing.
I don't look for any money any time soon, then will have to prove winnings-loses to IRS after they add penalties and interest that should not apply to those who have been paying taxes on them as they should.
Not really sure about this. A little turned into a lot according to numbers on a computer screen doesnt mean much unless these fantasy numbers can actually be used for everyday monetary expenses. These fantasy gains must be possible to get transfered into real monetary value within a certain reasonable amount of time. OK, obviously I'm no tax consultant but I do have proof to the inaccessabilty to my supposed funds. There has to be something in tax law about the abilty to access funds. Increase in monetary value of anything doesnt happen until it can be realized...
If I get payed $2000 for a remodeling job, the check bounces, and the writer of the check has a heartattack and dies, do I get in trouble for not paying taxes on $2000 even if it was 2 years ago???
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I think the DOJ wants the US players to get paid. And they can't trust GBT to pay us, since they have no incentive to do so. Hence it makes sense that they pay us directly. Like everyone else, I'm don't have all the details, but I certainly don't see them "going after us" for illegally playing or anything like that.
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"Playing" never was illegal.
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I certainly don't see them "going after us" for illegally playing or anything like that.
the DoJ can pay 4 my Plavix too LOL.
I attempted to cash out 600 of my 1250 on Black Friday... it appears in limbo to FTP,
but I have email records of that attempted transaction.
We'll see...
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http://www.onlinecasinoarchives.com/world/2011/11/07/shareholders-to-vote-on-gbt-takeover-of-full-tilt-poker/
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Quote from: horseplyr on November 07, 2011, 07:01:30 PM
http://www.onlinecasinoarchives.com/world/2011/11/07/shareholders-to-vote-on-gbt-takeover-of-full-tilt-poker/
imo Pretty sure that no shareholder will vote "Nay" on the takeover ... unless they want their name/reputation to being even more sullied, and their quality of life to go even farther downhill...
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If they needed 100% shareholder approval to finalize the sale I'd be worried, but they only need 2/3 approval. I can't imagine that being a problem.
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Progress, perhaps:
http://www.subjectpoker.com/2011/11/breaking-gbt-doj-deal/
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"November 1, 2011"
nothing new since then not on S:P and not on PokerFuse.
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Deal between FTP, GBT and the DoJ was finalized today, D.
Basically, FTP forfeited all assets to the DoJ to settle civil complaints, and the DoJ then sold FTP to Groupe Bernard Tapie for $80,000,000.
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Soooo, in summation:
The DoJ will fall over 300M short of paying off players. And GBT got FTP for a song. Yay, justice!
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"American players will have to apply to the DOJ for compensation" umm,umm,ummm
How will the DOJ reimburse my ftp's?...LoL
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