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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2011, 10:19:30 AM »

are our eyes opened now?

really?

does everyone still think withdraw problems were only with US?

As Ramsey says. SHUT IT DOWN?

I Just still cannot believe how many posters were defending full tilt on forums and thought prob with the US only.

SHUT IT DOWN.

I dont feel good btw about this, I know of sev players over seas who counted on playing and now they well prob never see their money either. Oh yeah I have to remember that most posters on FT didnt really play. They just like to post a lot, so they prob dont understand that.

SHUT IT DOWN.

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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2011, 10:19:39 AM »

Hahaha the morons on FTP forum who were saying that FTP is fine etc.

Take a look at this, cached from 16th June on 2+2.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TboFWMas8h4J:forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/fulltilt


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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2011, 10:23:42 AM »

oh hai.
I was just gonna vizit FTP forum and barg how I spent 125$ on non-pokering books. Shocked
And then the chit hits the fan agin.
>My $1250, for now, is long gone. TY 4 the moral support Alderney.
>I obv. can't lose my ass @ Bitcoin if I can't obtain Bitcoin [mah current status]

figured u guyz was here.

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P.S. I was assigned a new family Dr. yesterday.
My existing family Dr.'s 3-year residency was completed last week, and she
hauled ass outta state.
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« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2011, 10:25:19 AM »



P.S. I was assigned a new family Dr. yesterday.
My existing family Dr.'s 3-year residency was completed last week, and she
hauled ass outta state.


Chased off another one did ya!?  LMAO
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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2011, 11:39:42 AM »

Somehow this ended up in another thread, so putting it back here-

For those that haven't been following the usemywallet account seizures, the US govt has absolutely no interest in giving back any of the funds seized in that case, so the likelihood of the DOJ giving back in FTP's case is pretty much zero percent. 

To have the faith in the organization, given how things have transpired over the past several months, and year, is pointless.  Be surprised by only positive events.
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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2011, 12:04:02 PM »


As the walls fall down... need a laugh? (I'm pretty sure these were tweeted before 8am EST today)


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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2011, 12:22:58 PM »

my favourite comedy moment of the past 24 hours was the guy who emailed FTP support to ask if today would count as a free iron man day
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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2011, 12:25:15 PM »

Cant wait to the flood of posts about rush week bonuses, oh yah forum down, but what happens to those.

I mean ft did take care of the take 2 bonuses, thank gosh for that
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2011, 12:30:20 PM »

Glad to see you all again, but we gotta quit meeting under these kinds of circumstances. 
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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2011, 12:44:01 PM »

Glad to see you all again, but we gotta quit meeting under these kinds of circumstances. 

Rigged!

Sixandfour narced to Aldernay, to get more people on this forum!

Shameful... but I'd do the same.
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« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2011, 01:26:35 PM »

Interesting article:

http://scottmatusow.com/blog/2011/06/29/fulltilt-poker-is-not-done-read-this-to-find-out-why/

OMG, please happen!
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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2011, 01:38:15 PM »


I wouldn't get to excited by this BNS.  There is one thing that stands out like a red flag-

Quote from: from the article BNS posted
Sources tell me that it will pass, and as well, the bills will be amended to allow credit card deposits.

That is a big no-no in the US.  There is no way any bill will be amended to allow people to gamble on credit in the US.  It's just not going to happen.  You would have to use a debit card or prepaid stuff, but never will it be allowed to use credit to deposit.

The argument goes along these lines.  You don't gamble with any money you don't have and can't afford to lose.  If you are going into debt (which is what you are doing by using a credit card) then you shouldn't be risking that money in the first place. 

Maybe you don't understand how it is in the US, but I assure you, Credit cards will not be allowed to deposit in the US. 
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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2011, 01:43:46 PM »


I wouldn't get to excited by this BNS.  There is one thing that stands out like a red flag-

Quote from: from the article BNS posted
Sources tell me that it will pass, and as well, the bills will be amended to allow credit card deposits.

That is a big no-no in the US.  There is no way any bill will be amended to allow people to gamble on credit in the US.  It's just not going to happen.  You would have to use a debit card or prepaid stuff, but never will it be allowed to use credit to deposit.

The argument goes along these lines.  You don't gamble with any money you don't have and can't afford to lose.  If you are going into debt (which is what you are doing by using a credit card) then you shouldn't be risking that money in the first place. 

Maybe you don't understand how it is in the US, but I assure you, Credit cards will not be allowed to deposit in the US. 

+1.  Also, I would love to know the justification of his claim: "sources tell me this will pass".
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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2011, 02:10:12 PM »

I normally don't read 2+2 but found some funny pictures in it. Just LOL



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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2011, 02:31:30 PM »

...had a browser window open on my phone since mid-day yesterday. Was about to close out my browser windows, then realized that the discussion below is kinda ironic... Decided to share this, one of the final posts on the FTP forum, ahhhhh good times...

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horseplyr Posted: 3 hours ago at 8:35 am

If players knew that FTP did not have funds separate and knew they could not pay out if everyone withdrew, I doubt very much many players would of stayed on site.

This was hidden from players.

Everyone in the world knew what FTP was doing, by staying in the US was risky, and to know that FTP did not have funds to cover withdraws, should of, and would of been a HUGE red flag to everyone.

FTP did break the law, everyone here knows this, and understands this. Most of us feel this was justifiable by a bad bill passed.

I am one of those, however, FTP ignored the fact that this law would be enforced.

FTP is now having major withdraw issues with every country it seems. Sry Fletch seems like u r the only one who doesnt seem to realize this.

crtsports, to not think FTP broke laws is just hiding your head in the sand.

There was a period of time, I had no problem getting withdraws. I withdrew almost every month, but I wasnt naive to the fact that other players in the US and other countries were having problems. I considered myself very lucky to not have problems for 3 years or so withdrawing, I dont think some of you realize that this luck may and can change any day.

We were told over a month ago, that processed withdraws, that we were never received, back would of been credited back in our accounts. That has not happened.

I just dont see how that alone is a good sign. And again, there has been no update in over a month to let anyone why or what is going to happen to this.

FTP treated me well for a long period of time, and I truly hope that they are trying to deal with these issues, but I'm not hiding my head in the sand.







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Horse, you're saying that "they broke the law."

What country's laws did they break?

Keep in mind that they are not set up in the United States.



I guess we now know what "country" feels they weren't following the rules. 
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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2011, 03:08:28 PM »

Here is the good news about all of this. I saw the new Transformers movie last night, and it was good.

That is all.
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« Reply #41 on: June 29, 2011, 03:19:56 PM »

What a surprise.  Another great achievement for the year.

its a good thing FT is a stand up legit company, if they were a low life screw the customer type of company, than you guys would really be in trouble ! oh wait.....





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« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2011, 03:26:53 PM »


Here is the good news about all of this. I saw the new Transformers movie last night, and it was good.

That is all.

looks like you and most of the non-critic audience agree
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_dark_of_the_moon/
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/transformers-dark-of-the-moon

sounds like consensus is maybe not great, but good -- at least it ain't as bad as #2
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« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2011, 03:30:37 PM »

...had a browser window open on my phone since mid-day yesterday. Was about to close out my browser windows, then realized that the discussion below is kinda ironic... Decided to share this, one of the final posts on the FTP forum, ahhhhh good times...

There were several other posts in that thread after Fran's and horse's, including two by me.
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« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2011, 03:36:36 PM »

I wouldn't get to excited by this BNS.  There is one thing that stands out like a red flag-

Quote from: from the article BNS posted
Sources tell me that it will pass, and as well, the bills will be amended to allow credit card deposits.

That is a big no-no in the US.  There is no way any bill will be amended to allow people to gamble on credit in the US.  It's just not going to happen.  You would have to use a debit card or prepaid stuff, but never will it be allowed to use credit to deposit.

The argument goes along these lines.  You don't gamble with any money you don't have and can't afford to lose.  If you are going into debt (which is what you are doing by using a credit card) then you shouldn't be risking that money in the first place. 

Maybe you don't understand how it is in the US, but I assure you, Credit cards will not be allowed to deposit in the US. 

This makes zero sense to me !   Isn't the very notion of a "credit" card that it is a means to pay for something with money you don't have?  I mean the clue is in the name really !  Credit is exactly that, a temporary loan of money.  What you spend that money is not really relevant PROVIDED that there is a limit on the level of credit.  Using a credit card to buy a poker tournament ticket is no different to using a credit card to buy a washing machine.  The user may or may not be able to pay that money back quickly (or at all!) but that's the risk assessment that all credit companies carry out every day.   What matters is that the credit is limited to the appropriate level so that no single person can get in debt beyond what is deemed to be an acceptable level.  Is it beyond the US Government's power to ensure that credit companies impose the right levels of credit limit?  If not, how can they hope to manage the world of credit across all other industries?  The global crisis allegedley started by a bunch of sub-prime mortgages given to people who clearly could not afford to pay it back.  Ok we know that's really BS (not that they couldn't pay it back but that it was the cause of a worldwide crisis) but it's clear that lending on the whole has to be better controlled.  
Ordinary credit (i.e. use of a credit card) is surely about simple credit limit management and interest fees.  Larger credit (i.e. big loans) is more about securing the credit against assets (like your house) and so on.   No one really cares what you spend your credit card purchases on.  It alters nothing.  

Assuming the US Government now extract their significant pound of flesh from the poker industry in the form of taxes etc then it's in their interest to allow people to use any and all payment mechanisms.
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looks like you and most of the non-critic audience agree
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_dark_of_the_moon/
http://www.metacritic.com/movie/transformers-dark-of-the-moon

sounds like consensus is maybe not great, but good -- at least it ain't as bad as #2


RT is a pretty shootty review site, imo. You have a few of these big critics who are picky assholes, and it seems that the smaller critics "coincidentally" review it almost exactly the same as those famous, asshole critics. The only time I ever take the RT score into account is if it is ridiculously low, like below 10, or ridiculously high.

Also, I don't know why everyone hates on TF#2. Yes, it was the worst of the three movies, but in my opinion, they are still 3 bad ass movies and it wasn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
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« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2011, 04:00:08 PM »

I wouldn't get to excited by this BNS.  There is one thing that stands out like a red flag-

Quote from: from the article BNS posted
Sources tell me that it will pass, and as well, the bills will be amended to allow credit card deposits.

That is a big no-no in the US.  There is no way any bill will be amended to allow people to gamble on credit in the US.  It's just not going to happen.  You would have to use a debit card or prepaid stuff, but never will it be allowed to use credit to deposit.

The argument goes along these lines.  You don't gamble with any money you don't have and can't afford to lose.  If you are going into debt (which is what you are doing by using a credit card) then you shouldn't be risking that money in the first place. 

Maybe you don't understand how it is in the US, but I assure you, Credit cards will not be allowed to deposit in the US. 

This makes zero sense to me !   Isn't the very notion of a "credit" card that it is a means to pay for something with money you don't have?  I mean the clue is in the name really !  Credit is exactly that, a temporary loan of money.  What you spend that money is not really relevant PROVIDED that there is a limit on the level of credit.  Using a credit card to buy a poker tournament ticket is no different to using a credit card to buy a washing machine.  The user may or may not be able to pay that money back quickly (or at all!) but that's the risk assessment that all credit companies carry out every day.   What matters is that the credit is limited to the appropriate level so that no single person can get in debt beyond what is deemed to be an acceptable level.  Is it beyond the US Government's power to ensure that credit companies impose the right levels of credit limit?  If not, how can they hope to manage the world of credit across all other industries?  The global crisis allegedley started by a bunch of sub-prime mortgages given to people who clearly could not afford to pay it back.  Ok we know that's really BS (not that they couldn't pay it back but that it was the cause of a worldwide crisis) but it's clear that lending on the whole has to be better controlled.  
Ordinary credit (i.e. use of a credit card) is surely about simple credit limit management and interest fees.  Larger credit (i.e. big loans) is more about securing the credit against assets (like your house) and so on.   No one really cares what you spend your credit card purchases on.  It alters nothing.  

Assuming the US Government now extract their significant pound of flesh from the poker industry in the form of taxes etc then it's in their interest to allow people to use any and all payment mechanisms.


If someone uses a credit card to pay for a normal item (like, say golf balls), there is only a small probability that the person does not pay back the loan.

If someone uses a credit card to buy into a poker tournament, the probability of default goes up big time.

Banks and credit card companies do not like to make loans that don't get paid back.  It is not in their interest.
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« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2011, 04:01:46 PM »

One bright side to this: I believe Chris Ferguson is now free from his contract with FT to pursue his dream of appearing in Ballroom Dancing with the Stars.
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« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2011, 04:02:39 PM »

more grin-fuel:
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