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2 nl
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October 28, 2011, 08:59:16 PM »
I am running like 5% vpip over 50 hands
UTG2 running like 61% over like 20 hands
Was this played right or wrong?
How would others play this?
Everleaf $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
View hand 1496405
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Hero (BTN): $2.00
SB: $2.10
BB: $2.00
UTG: $7.57
UTG+1: $1.80
UTG+2: $4.63
MP1: $4.89
MP2: $2.02
CO: $0.77
Pre Flop:
($0.03) Hero is BTN with Q
Q
2 folds
,
UTG+2 raises to $0.07
,
1 fold
, MP2 calls $0.07,
1 fold
,
Hero raises to $0.31
,
1 fold
, BB calls $0.29, UTG+2 calls $0.24,
1 fold
Flop:
($1.01) J
8
3
(3 players)
BB checks,
UTG+2 bets $1.01
,
Hero raises to $1.69
, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.68
Turn:
($4.39) 3
(2 players)
River:
($4.39) T
(2 players)
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Re: 2 nl
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October 28, 2011, 11:02:22 PM »
At 2NL here I'm doing exactly what you did throughout. I'm not thrilled with villain potting the flop, but I'm certainly not going away, either. If he setmined you or donked out 2 pair, so be it. shoot happens and call it a cooler.
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Re: 2 nl
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Would a pre flop shove been out of line?
If my nitty ways haven't gotten the BB's attention should I have just shoved and gotten their chips on the tbl also?
If not ,why?
I would like to give the BB credit for maybe thinking I was just trying to isolate this lagtard but at 2nl who the fk knows what they are thinking.
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Re: 2 nl
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Quote from: twospd on October 28, 2011, 11:38:14 PM
Would a pre flop shove been out of line?
If my nitty ways haven't gotten the BB's attention should I have just shoved and gotten their chips on the tbl also?
If not ,why?
I would like to give the BB credit for maybe thinking I was just trying to isolate this lagtard but at 2nl who the fk knows what they are thinking.
It depends highly on whether you think you would stand to gain more at the time by shoving. I you think his shove-calling range is wide enough that QQ makes you money, go right ahead and shove. But a high VP alone doesn't ensure he's calling you with a lot worse, and obviously you're not folding better. A pot raise makes it enticing to call for a LAG who raised a less than spectacular hand, whereas he may fold to a shove. Being LAG doesn't necessarily mean he's maniacal. But if he is, by all means get them in.
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Re: 2 nl
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I'm generally playing it the same way.
I'm assuming you don't have enough 3 bet history for a meaningful stat? If he calls them a lot, and generally they do when there this bad, I'm 3 betting more than pot to 40 or 45. You really want to get it heads up if you can, because the more people in the hand the more chance one of them has a K or A when they hit the board. Never folding an over pair here though. NH.
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Re: 2 nl
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This hand happened just now, at a PLH table:
Everleaf - €0.02 PL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3:
http://www.pokertracker.com
SB: €4.82
BB: €2.00
Hero (UTG): €1.86
UTG+1: €0.38
MP: €1.20
MP+1: €0.98
CO: €3.71
BTN: €1.86
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (€0.03) Hero has Ad Kc
Hero raises to €0.07, UTG+1 raises to €0.24, MP calls €0.24, fold, CO raises to €1.06, fold, SB calls €1.05, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls €0.14, MP raises to €1.20, CO calls €0.14, SB calls €0.14
Flop: (€4.07, 4 players) 7s 4d 7h
SB checks, CO checks
Turn: (€4.07, 4 players) 2s
SB checks, CO checks
River: (€4.07, 4 players) 9c
SB bets €0.02, CO calls €0.02
SB shows 5d 5h (Two Pair, Sevens and Fives)
SB wins €1.52
SB wins €2.35
SB wins €0.04
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Re: 2 nl
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Quote from: BOYNAMEDSUE on October 29, 2011, 12:19:42 PM
This hand happened just now, at a PLH table:
Everleaf - €0.02 PL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3:
http://www.pokertracker.com
SB: €4.82
BB: €2.00
Hero (UTG): €1.86
UTG+1: €0.38
MP: €1.20
MP+1: €0.98
CO: €3.71
BTN: €1.86
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (€0.03) Hero has Ad Kc
Hero raises to €0.07, UTG+1 raises to €0.24, MP calls €0.24, fold, CO raises to €1.06, fold, SB calls €1.05, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls €0.14, MP raises to €1.20, CO calls €0.14, SB calls €0.14
Flop: (€4.07, 4 players) 7s 4d 7h
SB checks, CO checks
Turn: (€4.07, 4 players) 2s
SB checks, CO checks
River: (€4.07, 4 players) 9c
SB bets €0.02, CO calls €0.02
SB shows 5d 5h (Two Pair, Sevens and Fives)
SB wins €1.52
SB wins €2.35
SB wins €0.04
Nit.
Also, what did MP and CO have?
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Re: 2 nl
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October 29, 2011, 07:13:18 PM »
Typical Pl or capped game in that almost everyhand someone is wanting to cap Pre. Imo
Question boils down to "How much do you feel like gambling today".
This is a prime example. Imo
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Re: 2 nl
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Quote from: Fletch_smf on October 29, 2011, 03:59:44 PM
Quote from: BOYNAMEDSUE on October 29, 2011, 12:19:42 PM
This hand happened just now, at a PLH table:
Everleaf - €0.02 PL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3:
http://www.pokertracker.com
SB: €4.82
BB: €2.00
Hero (UTG): €1.86
UTG+1: €0.38
MP: €1.20
MP+1: €0.98
CO: €3.71
BTN: €1.86
SB posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02
Pre Flop: (€0.03) Hero has Ad Kc
Hero raises to €0.07, UTG+1 raises to €0.24, MP calls €0.24, fold, CO raises to €1.06, fold, SB calls €1.05, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls €0.14, MP raises to €1.20, CO calls €0.14, SB calls €0.14
Flop: (€4.07, 4 players) 7s 4d 7h
SB checks, CO checks
Turn: (€4.07, 4 players) 2s
SB checks, CO checks
River: (€4.07, 4 players) 9c
SB bets €0.02, CO calls €0.02
SB shows 5d 5h (Two Pair, Sevens and Fives)
SB wins €1.52
SB wins €2.35
SB wins €0.04
Nit.
Also, what did MP and CO have?
Oh, shoot, that's the whole reason I posted this hand. UTG+1 had AJs, MP had J6o, CO had KTo!
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Quote from: sixandfour on October 28, 2011, 11:02:22 PM
At 2NL here I'm doing exactly what you did throughout.
Agreed, except since you didn't mention how often villain has been RAISING his ridic-loose hand range, it's hard to tell if he might actually have a really good pair here or not. And if he is a consistent c-betting multi-street barreller, you might want to just flat the flop bet since your shove might make a bluff fold at that point, while a flat might induce him to shove the turn with far weaker than your pair. PS: Is there any reason to think that villain knows you are so mega-tight that your likely hand range is [JJ+] ? cuz he mighta been set mining (putting you on that overpair hand range) and he's going for maximum value now that he hit... Have his previous flop cbets been full pot, or less -- depending on how hard he hit the flop, or how wet the flop is? Those are the kind of data that is far more useful than just VPIP on its own, imo.
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They were holding Ks3s
I can't remember his pfr % but this was a bonafide lag.
It was just a cooler but I wanted other eyes to see this one to see if there was anything I could have done different.
Post flop he did have a bunch of outs. soooo.
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They were holding Ks3s
I can't remember his pfr % but this was a bonafide lag.
It was just a cooler but I wanted other eyes to see this one to see if there was anything I could have done different.
Post flop he did have a bunch of outs. soooo.
Long as he keeps calling 3 bets with Kxs, he's folding the flop everytime he misses (you would assume) you can start making your 3 bets bigger so you're collecting 40 or 45 with your bet pre. gg nh.
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What should I have done here? Villan 38/13/48 Me 17/6/33
Should I really believe they called my flop bet of 11bb with Ax?
Everleaf $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
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CO: $0.45
BTN: $1.30
SB: $0.43
BB: $2.53
UTG: $1.81
UTG+1: $2.09
Hero (UTG+2): $3.60
MP1: $2.30
MP2: $0.97
Pre Flop:
($0.03) Hero is UTG+2 with Q
Q
2 folds
,
Hero raises to $0.08
,
3 folds
, BTN calls $0.08,
2 folds
Flop:
($0.19) T
4
7
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.22
, BTN calls $0.22
Turn:
($0.63) A
(2 players)
Hero checks,
BTN bets $0.63
, Hero folds
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Ok so how should this of been played? I am just sick of it. Yes it is looking for trouble raising pF with these two and the board is somewhat coordinated but damn I have position and I sure aint giving no free cards...prob seems I am crying and I guess in a way I am but damn I just can't take this bingo shoot anymore.
What did I do wrong here other than possibly just fold pre
And these last two hands happened like 15ish apart.
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BB: $0.33
UTG: $0.73
UTG+1: $1.14
MP1: $2.33
MP2: $1.76
CO: $1.85
Hero (BTN): $3.24
SB: $2.10
Pre Flop:
($0.03) Hero is BTN with J
K
1 fold
, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02,
2 folds
,
Hero raises to $0.06
,
1 fold
, BB calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04
Flop:
($0.25) 9
K
Q
(4 players)
BB checks,
UTG+1 bets $0.04
, MP1 calls $0.04,
Hero raises to $0.14
, BB calls $0.14, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 folds
Turn:
($0.71) 8
(3 players)
BB bets $0.13
, UTG+1 calls $0.13,
Hero raises to $0.32
, UTG+1 calls $0.19
River:
($1.48) J
(3 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.62
, Hero calls $0.62
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And Here is another...like 10 hands later...I just can't take it anymore...You boys have fun,I'm done
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CO: $0.60
BTN: $2.47
SB: $2.90
BB: $2.07
UTG: $1.73
UTG+1: $1.85
Hero (MP1): $2.00
MP2: $2.60
Pre Flop:
($0.03) Hero is MP1 with 3
3
2 folds
,
Hero raises to $0.06
,
1 fold
, CO calls $0.06, BTN calls $0.06,
1 fold
, BB calls $0.04
Flop:
($0.25) 9
2
4
(4 players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $0.32
, CO folds, BTN folds,
BB raises to $2.01
, Hero calls $1.62 all in
Turn:
($4.13) K
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River:
($4.13) K
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And before someone starts flaming the QQ hand the way I see it I was either out played and scared off my hand by the A ott or I played correct by folding. I fully expect this person chased a weak A though and hit. I just am not going to call this pot sized bet to find out.
Second hand what could I do diff after getting involved? The J on the river made their str. They(utg)held KTo. The BB was on a weak ass flush draw.What else could I do?
Third hand they were all in on a flush draw and hit.
WTF...if this was an occasional event I could just live with it and walk away 2day saying oh well sht happens and I'll get this dumb ass 2mrrw.....but this is ALL the time...That was 2 buyins in like 50 hands... and it just doesn't stop. again like that last hand i normally would just laugh and get over it but this happens over and over the worst hand some how coming out on top. I am just sick of this skin and I am not going to adjust/start gambling like the majority of the players do that it fks my main game up. Limping all the time .Calling 8-10bb raises pre with atc...calling pot sized bets with draws...going all in with draws...fk this should be such a easy game but I am telling ya something aint right...these mtr fkrs hit constantly and just drain the BR...the last hand was like a J4s that got there...what it was basically a flip pre but I thought it to be a fairly good flop 4 me and yet this mtr fkr goes all in with a 100bb on a J high flush draw...WTF?
And again if this only happened occasionally it would be cool but this shoot is all the time losing to some bullshoot like this.
Ok I'm done
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After cooling off a little the only other thing I can think of is maybe this .02 shoot just aint registering with me. If it was say atleast .10 and folks were shoving $10 plus I suppose I would have a moment of pause like mostly everyone else does. It is all relative I guess. I will admit that $10 plus slows me down and makes me think about what I am about to do.
My offer to Spike still stands though...in fact I am going to pm him
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Quote from: twospd on November 10, 2011, 06:26:42 PM
What should I have done here? Villan 38/13/48 Me 17/6/33
Should I really believe they called my flop bet of 11bb with Ax?
Everleaf $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
View hand 1513717
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CO: $0.45
BTN: $1.30
SB: $0.43
BB: $2.53
UTG: $1.81
UTG+1: $2.09
Hero (UTG+2): $3.60
MP1: $2.30
MP2: $0.97
Pre Flop:
($0.03) Hero is UTG+2 with Q
Q
2 folds
,
Hero raises to $0.08
,
3 folds
, BTN calls $0.08,
2 folds
Flop:
($0.19) T
4
7
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.22
, BTN calls $0.22
Turn:
($0.63) A
(2 players)
Hero checks,
BTN bets $0.63
, Hero folds
What's his C Bet stats? And do you have any sort of read on his bet sizing. Is he always hitting the pot button whether it's for value or bluffing? Without a lot of history I'm bet folding the turn about half pot.
EDIT: To explain, the hands you're afraid of are AT, A7 and Axdd and he's got a lot more than that in his range.
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Quote from: twospd on November 10, 2011, 06:44:15 PM
Ok so how should this of been played? I am just sick of it. Yes it is looking for trouble raising pF with these two and the board is somewhat coordinated but damn I have position and I sure aint giving no free cards...prob seems I am crying and I guess in a way I am but damn I just can't take this bingo shoot anymore.
What did I do wrong here other than possibly just fold pre
And these last two hands happened like 15ish apart.
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BB: $0.33
UTG: $0.73
UTG+1: $1.14
MP1: $2.33
MP2: $1.76
CO: $1.85
Hero (BTN): $3.24
SB: $2.10
Pre Flop:
($0.03) Hero is BTN with J
K
1 fold
, UTG+1 calls $0.02, MP1 calls $0.02,
2 folds
,
Hero raises to $0.06
,
1 fold
, BB calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04
Flop:
($0.25) 9
K
Q
(4 players)
BB checks,
UTG+1 bets $0.04
, MP1 calls $0.04,
Hero raises to $0.14
, BB calls $0.14, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 folds
Turn:
($0.71) 8
(3 players)
BB bets $0.13
, UTG+1 calls $0.13,
Hero raises to $0.32
, UTG+1 calls $0.19
River:
($1.48) J
(3 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.62
, Hero calls $0.62
Your pre raise is just silly. 2 limpers before you and you raise to 3bb. Limp or raise properly, and at this limit limping is fine.
Your hand is nowhere near strong enough to raise on this flop. Top pair with mid kicker on that board is a small hand, and a small hand is for a small pot, so just call on the flop. And your raise is just too small to do anything except make the pot bigger because everyone is getting odds to call. You seem to be forgetting the other advantage of position which is the ability to keep the pot small when your hand isn't strong.
Turn is another call. You're essentially min raising to bloat the pot with a very mediocre hand.
River. Sux to make 2 pair which puts a 4 straight on the board, but you have to ask yourself ... is he betting the river without a T? Is he betting the river with any hand you beat? Though you're getting 3.5:1 odds, he's not check calling 2 streets then leading as a bluff that often.
Again, you should have used position to keep the pot small. If you flopped the straight or a set and wanted to protect your hand/bet for value you want to be raising much bigger than you did.
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Re: 2 nl
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Quote from: twospd on November 10, 2011, 06:53:30 PM
And Here is another...like 10 hands later...I just can't take it anymore...You boys have fun,I'm done
Everleaf $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players -
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CO: $0.60
BTN: $2.47
SB: $2.90
BB: $2.07
UTG: $1.73
UTG+1: $1.85
Hero (MP1): $2.00
MP2: $2.60
Pre Flop:
($0.03) Hero is MP1 with 3
3
2 folds
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Hero raises to $0.06
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1 fold
, CO calls $0.06, BTN calls $0.06,
1 fold
, BB calls $0.04
Flop:
($0.25) 9
2
4
(4 players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $0.32
, CO folds, BTN folds,
BB raises to $2.01
, Hero calls $1.62 all in
Turn:
($4.13) K
(2 players - 1 is all in)
River:
($4.13) K
(2 players - 1 is all in)
Against 3 players, check fold the flop.
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Quote from: twospd on November 10, 2011, 07:24:35 PM
Third hand they were all in on a flush draw and hit.
If they had to cards bigger than a 3 then they were a favourite when the money went in. That's why you fold when you don't hit your set.
Fold the 3s and keep the KJ pot as small as you can and you've saved yourself a buy in and a half. Bet folding the QQ hand and you make it that much harder for him to bluff you off the best hand and possibly take it down there. You've got lots of improving to do, sir.
And no-one is flaming. We're here offering advice.
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Quote from: twospd on November 10, 2011, 07:48:28 PM
If it was say atleast .10 and folks were shoving $10 plus I suppose I would have a moment of pause like mostly everyone else does. It is all relative I guess.
I will admit that $10 plus slows me down and makes me think about what I am about to do.
I'm responding to these as I get to them, btw, because it makes my thoughts untainted.
If you think about the game differently because of the money involved, then yes, the problem is with you. It's a simple fact that there are crazy people at every limit playing in anyway you can think of. It's not a matter of moving up to where they respect your raises, but moving up to where you start respecting theirs. That shows you that it's not your opponents that is the problem, but your own mindset.
If you don't take $2 seriously, then why does it tilt you so bad when you lose it? Because it's all money and it soon adds up. You need to start taking your game seriously, no matter what the limit, or you're not going to improve.
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^^^ And that last statement is a no shootter^^^
My reasoning: 1st hand I figure I am beat here because that is just how it has been going. I do not have my HUD set up to display that stat but certainly need to take the time and fix it.
2nd hand you say raise proper? These 2 clowns are literally playing atc and will call a 3bb raise just as quick as they would a 7+ bb raise .By raising small I thought I was keeping it small in pos and hoping to hit the flop.Which I did with a pretty good kicker.Ok so now I start driving with TP and again am correct that I am ahead...until they sux out on the river..Again this is just how it has been going.
3rd hand ..yes I miss the set and prob should fold here but as you see again I am correct that I am ahead but this yo yo check raises me all in with 100bb with a J high flush draw...and again we see what happens ...that big suxing sound...this is my point it just aint supposed to happen like this over and over and over...
I know aint no one flaming me,I just said that off the cuff.
It is a true statement though that my health is beginning to suffer from this crap. lol
I suppose spike is not around and I have cooled off sufficiently ,so I am officially rescinding my offer and going to bed...
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Quote from: Fletch_smf on November 10, 2011, 09:28:39 PM
If you think about the game differently because of the money involved, then yes, the problem is with you. It's a simple fact that there are crazy people at every limit playing in anyway you can think of. It's not a matter of moving up to where they respect your raises, but moving up to where you start respecting theirs. That shows you that it's not your opponents that is the problem, but your own mindset.
If you don't take $2 seriously, then why does it tilt you so bad when you lose it? Because it's all money and it soon adds up. You need to start taking your game seriously, no matter what the limit, or you're not going to improve.
All true.
It tilts me so bad because like any1 else I hate losing at anything. I know I do not play nl all that well ,but the dog gone beats I am taking are just silly and so very tilting.
Maybe I don't understand the bet sizing and pot/implied odds well enough in nl?...
Forget about the QQ hand ...What about the other two hands? Did they play correct with the way I was betting? Maybe I can back into it from that point of view and more clearly see what I was doing wrong.
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