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« on: February 04, 2012, 05:43:48 PM »

Lately I have been having playing better by not raising so much outta ep and trying to do more trapping is the reason for such a weak PF raise.   After this gets HU and with this flop do you believe I should of just folded.   I am HU with a rational player here so I have to believe QQ+ after the flop or they connected with a set but I have thoughts also that they are capable of playing AK in this way also.   Basically with the outs I ave i figured I was gonna either win or be stacked.   Sux to get stacked.    


On a side note the last time I checked it had been 719 hands since I was dealt AA.   Steady stream of sux cards or this type situation.   I am bitcaing here but if I was the one with the KK I can pretty much assure you  an A would of came out OTT or OTR.   LOL   this game can be so frustrating.  


Ok,  Rant Over. Wink

Everleaf $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 1623856
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MP2: $1.44
CO: $1.89
BTN: $1.00
SB: $4.52
BB: $0.52
Hero (UTG): $2.02
UTG+1: $2.28
MP1: $5.21

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $0.04, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $0.16, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.54, MP1 calls $0.38

Flop: ($1.11) 6 5 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.11, Hero calls $1.11

Turn: ($3.33) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $3.33, Hero calls $0.37 all in

River: ($4.07) T (2 players - 1 is all in)




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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2012, 02:26:24 AM »

Don't min raise. He 3 bets, but you don't know if it's his 3 betting range, or just his raising range that he might have called if you raised properly pre. It makes it harder to range him.

When you 4 bet pre you want to shove that flop. You're probably not folding out better, but you're in good shape against PP Queens or lower, and not to bad against Kings, even. And he's not checking behind after he 3bet called, and stacks are such that check calling is pretty much getting it all in anyway. It's always better to be the aggressor.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2012, 04:24:52 AM »

Ive been internalisng this really complicated situation in my head. I think you should just go allin pre everytime.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2012, 07:16:27 AM »

and stacks are such that check calling is pretty much getting it all in anyway. It's always better to be the aggressor.


100% agree.   After my flop call I am as good as all in.   I feel like this villain is like myself in the sense that we both respect each others play and he had to be thinking I either had the nut draw and they were just gonna value town my draw or that I had the AA and they were, as I was, pretty much gonna be a all in hand anyways so lets do it.   My CC'ing was hoping maybe they would slow down though. Grin
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 10:58:35 AM »

Flop: ($1.11) 6  5  9  (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.11, Hero calls $1.11



MP1 is lol, he calls for 25% of effective, then his flop bet isn't even for stacks, wtf. your flop call is essentially no different than a shove, since so little is left behind, but for some villains a shove might get them to fold whereas just calling might get them to stupidly barrel the turn with a worse hand such as a lower Ace -- cuz they might actually think you might fold your pocket pair thinking that THEY have an overpair.

In general though I think I'd just shove the flop because then I'm getting it all in with my actual equity, even though there is absolutely no turn card that would get me to fold. It just depends on if the villain would actually fold the flop after my shove, if he's bad enough to do that then maybe we don't want to scare him off Wink
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 11:26:27 AM »

I've been reading Nathan Williams' new ebook, Crushing the Microstakes, and it has changed the way I play microstakes games (2nl and 5nl). From early position I now raise to 4-6x the BB. 4x for medium-strong hands, 5-6BB with AK and 6-10x for KK and AA. Microstakes players see a raise as a raise, and many of them don't care if it's a min-raise or a 10x raise. If they want to see the flop, they're gonna see the flop. Might as well make them pay the max for calling with marginal hands.

So, no min-raising at the microstakes.

Btw, the ebook is only $20, and can be found at blackrain79.com.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 02:42:41 PM »

can be purchased a few other places*, the TOC summarized here (BlackRain79 aka Nathan Williams = a DragTheBar coach)
http://www.dragthebar.com/store/product_info.php/products_id/52


and reviewed by a CR pro:
http://www.cardrunners.com/blog/GarethChantler/book-review-crushing-the-microstakes-by-nathan-williams



ps: is it 6max or FR? mainly wanna know if it is applicable to live 1/2 fullring gong shows?





* looks like special $20 price @ http://www.blackrain79.com/p/book.html ... well since I have like $40 in my Paypal from a few months ago for which I have nothing else planned, maybe I'll pick it up... He seems like a pretty smart AND articulate player, based on post about table selection for example.

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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 03:41:41 PM »

Other thank junking the min-raise pre, this isn't too bad. Calling the flop bet is pretty much the same as shoving; being the aggressor by shoving isn't going to change much because no villain anywhere in the world would be folding to an extra 37c raise.

A c/s would have been much more effective OTF after a regular sized raise pre - if villain just calls the raise, you have much more in your stack to make c/s'ing a viable play. If villain 3-bets, we can evaluate based on any reads we have. With this being 2nl, I'm probably shipping unless I have some sort of solid read that this guy is ultra-stingy with his 3-bets.
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