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« on: August 04, 2010, 06:49:56 PM »

All I kept muttering to myself on the turn was, Not a nine, anything but a nine. This is the beat that broke my spirit and will to continue playing.

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I am hanging it up and calling it a career. It was fun while it lasted, but the past six months has been nothing but heartbreak. I cannot find a cash game coach, because I do not have the time with work, and I cannot find what's wrong with my game because I don't have the bankroll required to support trying more than one approach.

I only seem to do well when I'm getting really lucky and picking up strong hands on a consistent basis. I have a seemingly insurmountable problem with tilt, playing over my roll and playing at lower levels doesn't appeal to me. I think it is time I admit that I've grown out of my interest in poker, and am now just playing out of boredom.

I'm sick of wanting to break my door or put a hole in the wall whenever I bust. I am sick of having the perfect read on a bad player, only to have him suck right out on me. I'm sick of not being able to fulfill my own expectations of myself.

I will definitely still talk to all of you, but please do not talk to me about poker. The sooner I can forget about it, the better off I'm sure I'll be. Thank you for all the kind words and support over the years we've known each other, but WlkrTxsRngr is no more.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 07:48:54 PM »

Take a break and just give it some time... Its shootty when ya run bad and I feel your pain about droolers crushing you with BS odds and such. Variance will work itself out eventually, and if you are looking for someone to toss hand histories off of or do a sweat session I can try to help you out. I usually play late night MST.....

Poker can be a cruel mistress, but I cant let her go...
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 08:24:35 PM »

That certainly sucks for sure but it's not like it was a 1,2 or even 3 outer.  Guy had 6 outs on the river and yes, he was a huge dog at 88-12 percent but that's what happens in this game.

If it weren't for outcomes like this you wouldn't have the millions of amateurs playing.  This player made a brutal re-raise and got lucky.  You will win this hand over 80 percent of the time, just not this time.


Best of luck to you and I think it is a good idea to hang it up if it's affecting your psyche so much.



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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 11:31:55 PM »

Best of luck to you and I think it is a good idea to hang it up if it's affecting your psyche so much.
This. If losing a 4 to 1 is tilting you, you definitely need to step away from the game. And don't come back to it until you really want to play.

Best of luck with everything else.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 01:14:12 AM »

You played the hand very well, this is just what happens in poker.  Sad

A very important part of being a good poker player is being able to handle the losses, as it is
a very consistent part of the game. It is a good thing that you are taking a break.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 02:19:21 AM »

All I kept muttering to myself on the turn was, Not a nine, anything but a nine. This is the beat that broke my spirit and will to continue playing.

<a href="http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/flash/replayer.swf?pokerhandid=2178340" target="_blank">http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/flash/replayer.swf?pokerhandid=2178340</a>

I am hanging it up and calling it a career. It was fun while it lasted, but the past six months has been nothing but heartbreak. I cannot find a cash game coach, because I do not have the time with work, and I cannot find what's wrong with my game because I don't have the bankroll required to support trying more than one approach.

I only seem to do well when I'm getting really lucky and picking up strong hands on a consistent basis. I have a seemingly insurmountable problem with tilt, playing over my roll and playing at lower levels doesn't appeal to me. I think it is time I admit that I've grown out of my interest in poker, and am now just playing out of boredom.

I'm sick of wanting to break my door or put a hole in the wall whenever I bust. I am sick of having the perfect read on a bad player, only to have him suck right out on me. I'm sick of not being able to fulfill my own expectations of myself.

I will definitely still talk to all of you, but please do not talk to me about poker. The sooner I can forget about it, the better off I'm sure I'll be. Thank you for all the kind words and support over the years we've known each other, but WlkrTxsRngr is no more.

Wanna talk about religion or politics instead
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 07:27:06 AM »

  Very tough loss , but you played the hand properly . At the very least you do need to take a while away from the game as it's quite obviously affecting you in a bad way mentally and emotionally . Hope you do well no matter what the final outcome .     
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 05:24:09 PM »

Very tough loss , but you played the hand properly . At the very least you do need to take a while away from the game as it's quite obviously affecting you in a bad way mentally and emotionally . Hope you do well no matter what the final outcome .     

Honestly I probably would have folded when the guy went all in (thats assuming he didnt go all in very often. AA isnt worth my entire bankroll preflop. Too many times they lose.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2010, 11:43:00 AM »

yea definately take a break!  I had a little run where my aces where cracked everytime I played em...
Take a break off need it be a week or month!  I took about a month off and in my downtime studied hands
read a few books and played some family/friendly home games...came back to play and nearly tripled my bankroll!

only to be back at zero but its poker and swings happen!

some players can deal with it some cant and if it that stressful than i would recommend a break!

            
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2010, 01:05:58 PM »

Very tough loss , but you played the hand properly . At the very least you do need to take a while away from the game as it's quite obviously affecting you in a bad way mentally and emotionally . Hope you do well no matter what the final outcome .     

Honestly I probably would have folded when the guy went all in (thats assuming he didnt go all in very often. AA isnt worth my entire bankroll preflop. Too many times they lose.

What?!?!?! This is a level right?
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 02:15:12 PM »

Very tough loss , but you played the hand properly . At the very least you do need to take a while away from the game as it's quite obviously affecting you in a bad way mentally and emotionally . Hope you do well no matter what the final outcome .     

Honestly I probably would have folded when the guy went all in (thats assuming he didnt go all in very often. AA isnt worth my entire bankroll preflop. Too many times they lose.

What?!?!?! This is a level right?

It looks to me like hes playing a cash game, maybe i am wrong.
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 05:45:43 PM »

The fact you said you would fold AA preflop blows my mind.
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2010, 07:23:17 PM »

The fact you said you would fold AA preflop blows my mind.

Obviously you've never played with me! I always lose with them thats why "I" would fold.
 But seriously you're only in 600, is it worth 4,000 when you had two other people calling a 160.00 raise and then another going all in? One of them was bound to have a pair and theres a 50 50 chance of them hitting their card.

I am no pro so i welcome your thoughts on my thoughts.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2010, 07:27:19 PM »

Oh i should also say that i probably would have pushed all in instead of 600 in the first place for exactly the same reason. I always lose with them so i am going to make anyone that may have a pocket pair really think about playing them as well as run everyone else off. and I'm happy to just take the blinds.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 07:49:02 PM »

wow.

My head just asploaded.
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 09:51:25 PM »

One of them was bound to have a pair and theres a 50 50 chance of them hitting their card.
Your math is a little off, there. AA is a favourite against 1 or 2 villains. If you get your money in as a favourite, you win.

The real problem with this scenario is where you said earlier "isn't worth my entire bankroll preflop". The reason you use bank roll management is that you can't lose your entire roll on one hand.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2010, 02:07:46 AM »

One of them was bound to have a pair and theres a 50 50 chance of them hitting their card.
Your math is a little off, there. AA is a favourite against 1 or 2 villains. If you get your money in as a favourite, you win.

The real problem with this scenario is where you said earlier "isn't worth my entire bankroll preflop". The reason you use bank roll management is that you can't lose your entire roll on one hand.
if we both have pocket pairs we both have the same chance at hitting one of our cards. Not that AA doesnt have better odds over all.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2010, 10:11:07 AM »

One of them was bound to have a pair and theres a 50 50 chance of them hitting their card.
Your math is a little off, there. AA is a favourite against 1 or 2 villains. If you get your money in as a favourite, you win.

The real problem with this scenario is where you said earlier "isn't worth my entire bankroll preflop". The reason you use bank roll management is that you can't lose your entire roll on one hand.
if we both have pocket pairs we both have the same chance at hitting one of our cards. Not that AA doesnt have better odds over all.

AA crushes other pocket pairs preflop. Period.
You will hit "one of your other cards" 1 in 7.5 times (8.5 to 1 to flop a set or better)... If you both hit sets AA is way ahead.
I cant believe Im having this conversation in this day and age of poker - guess its a good sign.

Either that or this is the greatest level of all time.
 
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2010, 11:40:53 AM »

One of them was bound to have a pair and theres a 50 50 chance of them hitting their card.
Your math is a little off, there. AA is a favourite against 1 or 2 villains. If you get your money in as a favourite, you win.

The real problem with this scenario is where you said earlier "isn't worth my entire bankroll preflop". The reason you use bank roll management is that you can't lose your entire roll on one hand.
if we both have pocket pairs we both have the same chance at hitting one of our cards. Not that AA doesnt have better odds over all.

AA crushes other pocket pairs preflop. Period.
You will hit "one of your other cards" 1 in 7.5 times (8.5 to 1 to flop a set or better)... If you both hit sets AA is way ahead.
I cant believe Im having this conversation in this day and age of poker - guess its a good sign.

Either that or this is the greatest level of all time.
 

I am not talking about the percentages of AA i realize they are a better hand. My point was just if we both have a pocket pair our chances are equal between one of us hitting our card.

In my case and this is only for ME, i wouldn't risk my 4,000 for a 600.
My reasoning for this is because two other people called a raise, another one reraised and went all, I am assuming at least one of those people has a pocket pair or more likely one of my A's possibly AK. Now what are my chances if they all call? I have no idea what the other two players are going to do yet because i act after the all in guy.
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2010, 11:45:15 AM »

One of them was bound to have a pair and theres a 50 50 chance of them hitting their card.
Your math is a little off, there. AA is a favourite against 1 or 2 villains. If you get your money in as a favourite, you win.

The real problem with this scenario is where you said earlier "isn't worth my entire bankroll preflop". The reason you use bank roll management is that you can't lose your entire roll on one hand.
if we both have pocket pairs we both have the same chance at hitting one of our cards. Not that AA doesnt have better odds over all.

AA crushes other pocket pairs preflop. Period.
You will hit "one of your other cards" 1 in 7.5 times (8.5 to 1 to flop a set or better)... If you both hit sets AA is way ahead.
I cant believe Im having this conversation in this day and age of poker - guess its a good sign.

Either that or this is the greatest level of all time.
 

Hey Big. what the heck does this mean? sorry i have no clue lol " Either that or this is the greatest level"
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2010, 03:57:49 PM »

GL Walker. Don't beat yourself up too bad, nothing you can do.
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2010, 07:35:10 PM »

Hey Big. what the heck does this mean? sorry i have no clue lol " Either that or this is the greatest level"
A "level" is a joke, essentially. He is suggesting that you're pretending to be this ... "dumb" ... for want of a better word, as a way of being funny.

If one of you makes a set, you are correct in suggesting there is a 50/50 shot of it being you or your opponent. What you don't seem to be taking into account is that the majority of the time neither of you will make a set. And so the majority of the time AA wins unimproved.
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2010, 07:45:38 PM »

Hey Big. what the heck does this mean? sorry i have no clue lol " Either that or this is the greatest level"
A "level" is a joke, essentially. He is suggesting that you're pretending to be this ... "dumb" ... for want of a better word, as a way of being funny.

If one of you makes a set, you are correct in suggesting there is a 50/50 shot of it being you or your opponent. What you don't seem to be taking into account is that the majority of the time neither of you will make a set. And so the majority of the time AA wins unimproved.

But am i the only one who takes into account the other players on the table? Playing heads up is a different ball game of course but like i said seeing the raises and the calls before the all in leads me to believe that someone probably had one of my A's. Am i over thinking this?
And for the record im not claiming to know how to play this, just the way i would play it and why. But i am not an expert obviously lol.
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2010, 08:13:28 PM »

But am i the only one who takes into account the other players on the table? Playing heads up is a different ball game of course but like i said seeing the raises and the calls before the all in leads me to believe that someone probably had one of my A's. Am i over thinking this?
And for the record im not claiming to know how to play this, just the way i would play it and why. But i am not an expert obviously lol.
Yeah, you're over thinking this, lol. Some results from Poker Stove, and I heartily recommend you download it and try some stuff out for yourself.


AA v JJ
80% 20%

AA v JJ v AQ
71% 19%   9%

AA v JJ v AQ v RND
64% 17%   5%   14%
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2010, 11:39:09 AM »

Prob a smart decision bro, poker seemed to have more of an negative experience on your life than positive. I think you'll have a more positive experience if you play more recreationally, and don't worry about the results. Good luck in your future endeavors.

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Honestly I probably would have folded when the guy went all in (thats assuming he didnt go all in very often. AA isnt worth my entire bankroll preflop. Too many times they lose.
and I realize I wasn't getting leveled. You need to re-think poker.
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