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Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM »
So working on my MTT game. Any and all advice appreciated.
Hand #1
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 4 players -
View hand 1105785
Hero (SB): t26768 M = 11.15
BB: t54094 M = 22.54
CO: t63408 M = 26.42
BTN: t35730 M = 14.89
33/19 (118)
Pre Flop:
(t2400) Hero is SB with Q
J
1 fold
,
BTN raises to t4800
,
Hero raises to t26618 all in
Villain has been regularly opening on the BTN for 4XBB. Jamming here?
Hand #2
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 5 players -
View hand 1105786
SB: t14650 M = 5.75
Hero (BB): t28456 M = 11.16
UTG: t56644 M = 22.21
CO: t41370 M = 16.22
BTN: t38880 M = 15.25
33/19 (118)
Pre Flop:
(t2550) Hero is BB with 2
2
2 folds
,
BTN raises to t4800
,
1 fold
,
Hero raises to t28306 all in
Villain is regularly opening for 4xBB. Jamming here?
Hand #3
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 6 players -
View hand 1105787
BB: t4280 M = 1.59
UTG: t13150 M = 4.87
Hero (MP): t25906 M = 9.59
CO: t48454 M = 17.95
BTN: t46400 M = 17.19
SB: t41810 M = 15.49
Pre Flop:
(t2700) Hero is MP with 9
K
1 fold
,
Hero raises to t2400
Is opening okay here?
Hand #4
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t125 - 8 players -
View hand 1105788
BTN: t9630 M = 3.85
SB: t8200 M = 3.28
14/7 (180)
Hero (BB): t25456 M = 10.18
UTG: t16089 M = 6.44
UTG+1: t15890 M = 6.36
MP1: t28515 M = 11.41
30/8 (50)
MP2: t52535 M = 21.01
33/19 (118)
CO: t23685 M = 9.47
32/15 (9)
Pre Flop:
(t2500) Hero is BB with Q
A
2 folds
, MP1 calls t1000, MP2 calls t1000, CO calls t1000,
1 fold
, SB calls t500, Hero ??
Is checking behind, OOP against loose passive players okay here? Is any raise other than a shove acceptable?
Hand #5
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t125 - 7 players -
View hand 1105789
MP: t7005 M = 2.95
CO: t6950 M = 2.93
Hero (BTN): t26581 M = 11.19
SB: t38979 M = 16.41
BB: t29265 M = 12.32
30/8 (50)
UTG: t51285 M = 21.59
33/19 (118)
UTG+1: t19935 M = 8.39
Pre Flop:
(t2375) Hero is BTN with A
3
UTG calls t1000,
3 folds
, Hero?
Iso raising here with the hope of taking it down with a C Bet or is raising just going to inflate the pot because BB is likely calling anyway? Assuming that it's likely 2 villains will be in the pot, even with position, is open folding A rag an option?
Hand #6
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t350/t700 Blinds + t85 - 6 players -
View hand 1105833
BTN: t8780 M = 5.63
Hero (SB): t16050 M = 10.29
BB: t6885 M = 4.41
19/8 (105)
UTG: t18073 M = 11.59
MP: t44692 M = 28.65
CO: t5885 M = 3.77
Pre Flop:
(t1560) Hero is SB with J
Q
4 folds
,
Hero raises to t1400
,
BB raises to t6800 all in
, Hero calls t5400
This guy sat out and blinded down till he nearly bubbled out. Then he doubled up through me T5>T9 with trip 5's. So is this line the best way to get the chips in. Should I open shove? Getting nearly 2 to 1 here this isn't a fold, is it? It bothered me that he got to the cash, and I just wanted to check that my call here wasn't affected by tilt.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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January 04, 2011, 06:53:24 PM »
Hands #1 & 2
Is this the Final Table, if not looks like pretty loose play to me. Just because he raiser has been agressive, doesn't mean he doesn't have a hand this time. I think you can find a better spot to get your money in. With an M of 11 I do agree that if you decide to play it you have to shove. But if you fold, you'll have position next hand.
I hate 2-2 for a hand.
Hand #3--personally I'd raise more---but I think raising there is fine
Hand #4--I get a feeling if you shove there, all those limpers would call. So you might want to see a cheap flop.
Hand #5--BB has enough chips that he can afford to fold, so I think a raise is the right move.
Hand #6--BB has a wide range here, I'd consider the call, would not be a terrible fold either.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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January 04, 2011, 07:07:44 PM »
1st hand: I think I like it, especially if you have a tight image
2nd hand: I don't hate this either, but it depends if you just shoved on him the hand before or have been shoving on him alot, you are more likely to get called and 22 just doesn't play that well against hands he is likely calling you with. Personally, I am probably laying down the 22, unless my image has been super tight up until this hand.
3rd: opening is fine there, I prefer to do this at a tight table though, so you are more likely to pick up the blinds and
antes, if you get called and miss, you can't really afford to lose much of your stack with cbets, etc..and if a king comes
out and someone tags along, we can't feel too good about our hand because it is likely we are dominated with a better kicker. Ideally you want to be accumulating more chips and have like 50bb+ that you can bully people around with.
4th: I shove. If you raise, I think you need to make it an amount that gives you a pot sized shove on the flop, and be prepared to shove any flop.
I don't like the latter strategy in this buy in level btw, I just shove.
5th: I dump it. Utg could be trapping, or limping a pair, a better ace, not worth getting involved imo. I find a better spot.
6th: I think I might have raised it preflop to like 7k and put him all-in anyways, so no, I don't think it is a bad call, QJs
plays good against a lot of hands anyways.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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January 04, 2011, 07:20:46 PM »
I forgot this was a 90 man, when you said mtts that threw me off a bit, I consider 90 mans sngs, and the strategy different then large field mtts, anyhow my comment about the 50bb was geared for large field mtts.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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January 04, 2011, 07:41:15 PM »
Hand 1: Easy fold. You're really setting yourself up for getting it in with terrible equity against a lot of his range, and I think you're going to have the best hand a lot of the time whenever he folds to your shove.
Hand 2: You're depending solely on fold equity with this shove. Don't put yourself in spots like this based on generalizations -- such generalizations aren't even traps if you don't let them be traps and just play ABC.
Hand 3: The minraise is pretty bad and you're going to end up in a bloated pot OOP and unable to read into the blinds' hands a good amount of the time. If anything, make it 3000-3600. I'd rather just open-fold.
Hand 4: Raise-call 5000. Lots of dead money to pick up in the pot even if it is folded around, and with the blinds this big, that dead money can make a difference in the long run. Considering we cover most of the people still in the hand right now, I'm comfortable getting it in against one of them.
Hand 5: Since you have room to bet-fold a dry flop, I'm raising to 3000 here. Technically, the BB folds more often than they call, so no, it's not really
that
likely that they'll call here, even in the BB. Bring up a 67/17 in the same spot and then you can say that.
Hand 6: I'm not feeling too good when I call, but I probably take the same line. Please don't open-shove queen high in this spot, though.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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January 05, 2011, 02:24:41 AM »
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #1
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 4 players -
View hand 1105785
Hero (SB): t26768 M = 11.15
BB: t54094 M = 22.54
CO: t63408 M = 26.42
BTN: t35730 M = 14.89
33/19 (118)
Pre Flop:
(t2400) Hero is SB with Q
J
1 fold
,
BTN raises to t4800
,
Hero raises to t26618 all in
Villain has been regularly opening on the BTN for 4XBB. Jamming here?
Not in love with playing back here with a marginal hand, but it depends somewhat on Villain. Are the reads given based mostly on short table play or did you have time some time full rim included as well?
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #2[/b][/color]
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 5 players -
View hand 1105786
SB: t14650 M = 5.75
Hero (BB): t28456 M = 11.16
UTG: t56644 M = 22.21
CO: t41370 M = 16.22
BTN: t38880 M = 15.25
33/19 (118)
Pre Flop:
(t2550) Hero is BB with 2
2
2 folds
,
BTN raises to t4800
,
1 fold
,
Hero raises to t28306 all in
Villain is regularly opening for 4xBB. Jamming here?
See #1.
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #3
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 6 players -
View hand 1105787
BB: t4280 M = 1.59
UTG: t13150 M = 4.87
Hero (MP): t25906 M = 9.59
CO: t48454 M = 17.95
BTN: t46400 M = 17.19
SB: t41810 M = 15.49
Pre Flop:
(t2700) Hero is MP with 9
K
1 fold
,
Hero raises to t2400
Is opening okay here?
Opening is fine, and in this rare case I can see a minraise; provided the table isn't a bunch of total idiots. It looks particularly strong when BB is committed to shoving if he plays the hand and the sizing would allow you to reraise if BB shoves. I'm not saying that'd be the line to take at all; but to the rest of the table it could be read as softplaying a monster. But if you don't think the table's sophisticated enough to buy what you're selling, then it's a bit of FPS.
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #4
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t125 - 8 players -
View hand 1105788
BTN: t9630 M = 3.85
SB: t8200 M = 3.28
14/7 (180)
Hero (BB): t25456 M = 10.18
UTG: t16089 M = 6.44
UTG+1: t15890 M = 6.36
MP1: t28515 M = 11.41
30/8 (50)
MP2: t52535 M = 21.01
33/19 (118)
CO: t23685 M = 9.47
32/15 (9)
Pre Flop:
(t2500) Hero is BB with Q
A
2 folds
, MP1 calls t1000, MP2 calls t1000, CO calls t1000,
1 fold
, SB calls t500, Hero ??
Is checking behind, OOP against loose passive players okay here? Is any raise other than a shove acceptable?
The idea of checking behind kinda makes me want to throw up a little. I like a shove just fine; and no, I can't see a viable raise smaller than that.
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #5
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t125 - 7 players -
View hand 1105789
MP: t7005 M = 2.95
CO: t6950 M = 2.93
Hero (BTN): t26581 M = 11.19
SB: t38979 M = 16.41
BB: t29265 M = 12.32
30/8 (50)
UTG: t51285 M = 21.59
33/19 (118)
UTG+1: t19935 M = 8.39
Pre Flop:
(t2375) Hero is BTN with A
3
UTG calls t1000,
3 folds
, Hero?
Iso raising here with the hope of taking it down with a C Bet or is raising just going to inflate the pot because BB is likely calling anyway? Assuming that it's likely 2 villains will be in the pot, even with position, is open folding A rag an option?
Right or wrong, I'm just fine with folding and not at all interested in raising into a UTG limp. If this is the villain from #1 and 2, read might make me reconsider the raise.
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #6
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t350/t700 Blinds + t85 - 6 players -
View hand 1105833
BTN: t8780 M = 5.63
Hero (SB): t16050 M = 10.29
BB: t6885 M = 4.41
19/8 (105)
UTG: t18073 M = 11.59
MP: t44692 M = 28.65
CO: t5885 M = 3.77
Pre Flop:
(t1560) Hero is SB with J
Q
4 folds
,
Hero raises to t1400
,
BB raises to t6800 all in
, Hero calls t5400
This guy sat out and blinded down till he nearly bubbled out. Then he doubled up through me T5>T9 with trip 5's. So is this line the best way to get the chips in. Should I open shove? Getting nearly 2 to 1 here this isn't a fold, is it? It bothered me that he got to the cash, and I just wanted to check that my call here wasn't affected by tilt.
Given villain's range, I see no fold here as played. Not fond of the minraise from SB; exactly who in the BB ever does not have odds to call?
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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January 05, 2011, 11:41:04 AM »
Hand 1
Fold but very close to shoving. I'd shove with KJ, KQ, A2s-A8s, any pair 8s and less.
Hand 2
I'm jamming here even though I hate 2s.
Hand 3
Nothing wrong with opening here but with a larger raise 2.5 - 3x. With all the bigger stacks yet to act I would fold here and wait for a better hand. K9 is awful and I'd rather make the raise with a suited connector like 67 or 78 than K9 if you want to get frisky.
Hand 4
With 4500 in the pot I like a shove here out of position.
Hand 5
Easy fold here.
Hand 6.
Really don't like the minimum raise here. If you are going to call a reraise allin then just shove right off the bat to put maximum pressure on the BB.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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Quote from: adventTM on January 04, 2011, 07:41:15 PM
Hand 6: I'm not feeling too good when I call, but I probably take the same line.
Please don't open-shove queen high in this spot, though.
Can you expound on this, please? If you don't feel good about raise/calling, then you are left with open folding or open shoving.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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Quote from: sixandfour on January 05, 2011, 02:24:41 AM
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #1
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 4 players -
View hand 1105785
Hero (SB): t26768 M = 11.15
BB: t54094 M = 22.54
CO: t63408 M = 26.42
BTN: t35730 M = 14.89
33/19 (118)
Pre Flop:
(t2400) Hero is SB with Q
J
1 fold
,
BTN raises to t4800
,
Hero raises to t26618 all in
Villain has been regularly opening on the BTN for 4XBB. Jamming here?
Not in love with playing back here with a marginal hand, but it depends somewhat on Villain. Are the reads given based mostly on short table play or did you have time some time full rim included as well?
The reads here are based on FT, although the stats will have included some collected earlier in the game.
Quote from: sixandfour on January 05, 2011, 02:24:41 AM
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #2[/b][/color]
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 5 players -
View hand 1105786
SB: t14650 M = 5.75
Hero (BB): t28456 M = 11.16
UTG: t56644 M = 22.21
CO: t41370 M = 16.22
BTN: t38880 M = 15.25
33/19 (118)
Pre Flop:
(t2550) Hero is BB with 2
2
2 folds
,
BTN raises to t4800
,
1 fold
,
Hero raises to t28306 all in
Villain is regularly opening for 4xBB. Jamming here?
See #1.
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #3
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t150 - 6 players -
View hand 1105787
BB: t4280 M = 1.59
UTG: t13150 M = 4.87
Hero (MP): t25906 M = 9.59
CO: t48454 M = 17.95
BTN: t46400 M = 17.19
SB: t41810 M = 15.49
Pre Flop:
(t2700) Hero is MP with 9
K
1 fold
,
Hero raises to t2400
Is opening okay here?
Opening is fine, and in this rare case I can see a minraise; provided the table isn't a bunch of total idiots. It looks particularly strong when BB is committed to shoving if he plays the hand and the sizing would allow you to reraise if BB shoves. I'm not saying that'd be the line to take at all; but to the rest of the table it could be read as softplaying a monster. But if you don't think the table's sophisticated enough to buy what you're selling, then it's a bit of FPS.
Yeah, minraise is my standard open with blinds this size. I have started another thread to discuss this.
Quote from: sixandfour on January 05, 2011, 02:24:41 AM
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #4
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t125 - 8 players -
View hand 1105788
BTN: t9630 M = 3.85
SB: t8200 M = 3.28
14/7 (180)
Hero (BB): t25456 M = 10.18
UTG: t16089 M = 6.44
UTG+1: t15890 M = 6.36
MP1: t28515 M = 11.41
30/8 (50)
MP2: t52535 M = 21.01
33/19 (118)
CO: t23685 M = 9.47
32/15 (9)
Pre Flop:
(t2500) Hero is BB with Q
A
2 folds
, MP1 calls t1000, MP2 calls t1000, CO calls t1000,
1 fold
, SB calls t500, Hero ??
Is checking behind, OOP against loose passive players okay here? Is any raise other than a shove acceptable?
The idea of checking behind kinda makes me want to throw up a little. I like a shove just fine; and no, I can't see a viable raise smaller than that.
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #5
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t500/t1000 Blinds + t125 - 7 players -
View hand 1105789
MP: t7005 M = 2.95
CO: t6950 M = 2.93
Hero (BTN): t26581 M = 11.19
SB: t38979 M = 16.41
BB: t29265 M = 12.32
30/8 (50)
UTG: t51285 M = 21.59
33/19 (118)
UTG+1: t19935 M = 8.39
Pre Flop:
(t2375) Hero is BTN with A
3
UTG calls t1000,
3 folds
, Hero?
Iso raising here with the hope of taking it down with a C Bet or is raising just going to inflate the pot because BB is likely calling anyway? Assuming that it's likely 2 villains will be in the pot, even with position, is open folding A rag an option?
Right or wrong, I'm just fine with folding and not at all interested in raising into a UTG limp. If this is the villain from #1 and 2, read might make me reconsider the raise.
This is the villain from hands 1 and 2, but if you have noticed that you might have noticed that blinds are less and opponents are larger in number. For some reason when copying mass hands from HEM to convert it reverses the order. So what I am saying is that I don't have the reads I have from those hands at this point.
Quote from: sixandfour on January 05, 2011, 02:24:41 AM
Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
Hand #6
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t350/t700 Blinds + t85 - 6 players -
View hand 1105833
BTN: t8780 M = 5.63
Hero (SB): t16050 M = 10.29
BB: t6885 M = 4.41
19/8 (105)
UTG: t18073 M = 11.59
MP: t44692 M = 28.65
CO: t5885 M = 3.77
Pre Flop:
(t1560) Hero is SB with J
Q
4 folds
,
Hero raises to t1400
,
BB raises to t6800 all in
, Hero calls t5400
This guy sat out and blinded down till he nearly bubbled out. Then he doubled up through me T5>T9 with trip 5's. So is this line the best way to get the chips in. Should I open shove? Getting nearly 2 to 1 here this isn't a fold, is it? It bothered me that he got to the cash, and I just wanted to check that my call here wasn't affected by tilt.
Given villain's range, I see no fold here as played. Not fond of the minraise from SB; exactly who in the BB ever does not have odds to call?
I actually prefer BB to call and then fold to the C Bet because I get more of his chippies. You would be surprised how often the short stack does that. Actually, you probably wouldn't.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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Quote from: Fletch_smf on January 04, 2011, 05:47:15 PM
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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Hand 1: If this guy has done this before a couple of times then anything but shoving here is bad imo. Not only do we get the additional value from the 4x open, but we can maximise our FE vs a range that we’re ahead of. Sure if we get called we’re behind but JQ flops well enough for this to be a hugely +ev and unexploitable shove.
Hand 2: Pretty much the same reasoning as above. If this guy’s standard open is 4x on the button, I’m more than happy to get the chips in here.
Hand 3: Yes it’s a good open. Opening pots hugely light at these BI levels is always going to be +ev given that the blinds will do weird things like flat with rags because they think they’re getting the odds to do so, and of course we cbet a huge majority of the time.
Hand 4: Insta ship almost fist pump. I’m shoving a great deal wider than AQ too. Probably something like 66+ AT+ KQ.
Hand 5: Just fold. No need to throw chips in the pot OOP at these limits. You should be able to beat these games simply by playing almost all pots IP that aren’t PF shoves or monsters.
Hand 6: Just shove. Trying to induce with a marginal hand really isn’t going to be as +ev as shoving and maximising whatever FE we have. Sure he’s going to call with a tighter range than he would shove with, but the equity we gain for the times he folds will far out way that. I mean, I don’t think we necessarily have to balance our range here really, but be aware that we’re going to be shoving here at great deal wider than JQ suited, so it’s going to be better to maintain that strat with all our hands (maybe bar monsters with your reads).
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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April 17, 2011, 08:40:51 AM »
yo fletch whats up?
hands 1 and 2 .... snap folds!
shove those hands when ever there is an open pot or limpers only, if there is a raise before you, then you are beat, just fold the hand, unless you have a monster... all other hands will lose.
not an easy thing to do, as a matter of fact i didn't follow this advice last night, oh well...
Hand#256892CD26000655 - Tournament Table 13 T9620774 -- Table 1 -- $120/$600/$1,200 NL Hold'em -- 2011/04/16 - 23:25:11
Dealt to kwik1 [8h,As]
16PJ***6: folds
Vici***7: folds
REDL***10: folds
neck***1: folds
Butt***2: raises to 5,040
sabe***3: folds
kwik1: is all in 5292.0000
Butt***2: calls 1,452
kwik1: shows [8h As]
Butt***2: shows [Kc Ac]
*** FLOP *** [Js,7c,Th]
*** TURN *** [4h]
*** RIVER *** [7h]
***SHOW DOWN***
Butt***2: wins 14,424 with Pair of Sevens with Ace , King kickers
kwik1 finished 14 out of 107 players.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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April 17, 2011, 09:04:05 AM »
Quote from: kwik on April 17, 2011, 08:40:51 AM
yo fletch whats up?
hands 1 and 2 .... snap folds!
shove those hands when ever there is an open pot or limpers only, if there is a raise before you, then you are beat, just fold the hand, unless you have a monster... all other hands will lose.
not an easy thing to do, as a matter of fact i didn't follow this advice last night, oh well...
Hand#256892CD26000655 - Tournament Table 13 T9620774 -- Table 1 -- $120/$600/$1,200 NL Hold'em -- 2011/04/16 - 23:25:11
Dealt to kwik1 [8h,As]
16PJ***6: folds
Vici***7: folds
REDL***10: folds
neck***1: folds
Butt***2: raises to 5,040
sabe***3: folds
kwik1: is all in 5292.0000
Butt***2: calls 1,452
kwik1: shows [8h As]
Butt***2: shows [Kc Ac]
*** FLOP *** [Js,7c,Th]
*** TURN *** [4h]
*** RIVER *** [7h]
***SHOW DOWN***
Butt***2: wins 14,424 with Pair of Sevens with Ace , King kickers
kwik1 finished 14 out of 107 players.
Please just don't listen to this. EVER.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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Hand#257192ED65000779 - Tournament Table 8 T9629029 -- Table 13 -- $250/$1,250/$2,500 NL Hold'em -- 2011/04/19 - 23:53:42
do ya see what i'm talking about,dam it happened again, i went all-in after a raise, should have folded...
Dealt to kwik1 [2d,2c]
mike***10: folds
Uwan***1: raises to 5,295
Rivr***2: folds
2Sho***3: folds
kwik1: is all in 3038.0000
rica***6: folds
pici***8: folds
blac***9: is all in 52600.0000
Uwan***1: calls 49,805
kwik1: shows [2d 2c]
blac***9: shows [9d 9h]
Uwan***1: shows [Ac Qc]
*** FLOP *** [6d,4s,7d]
*** TURN *** [3d]
*** RIVER *** [Qd]
***SHOW DOWN***
blac***9: wins 104,124 with Flush, Queen high
***SHOW DOWN***
blac***9: wins 12,364 with Flush, Queen high
kwik1 finished 8 out of 116 players.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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April 20, 2011, 04:01:24 PM »
Quote from: kwik on April 20, 2011, 03:16:38 PM
Hand#257192ED65000779 - Tournament Table 8 T9629029 -- Table 13 -- $250/$1,250/$2,500 NL Hold'em -- 2011/04/19 - 23:53:42
do ya see what i'm talking about,dam it happened again, i went all-in after a raise, should have folded...
Dealt to kwik1 [2d,2c]
mike***10: folds
Uwan***1: raises to 5,295
Rivr***2: folds
2Sho***3: folds
kwik1: is all in 3038.0000
rica***6: folds
pici***8: folds
blac***9: is all in 52600.0000
Uwan***1: calls 49,805
kwik1: shows [2d 2c]
blac***9: shows [9d 9h]
Uwan***1: shows [Ac Qc]
*** FLOP *** [6d,4s,7d]
*** TURN *** [3d]
*** RIVER *** [Qd]
***SHOW DOWN***
blac***9: wins 104,124 with Flush, Queen high
***SHOW DOWN***
blac***9: wins 12,364 with Flush, Queen high
kwik1 finished 8 out of 116 players.
Please convert your hand.
The difference (ignoring other reads on opponents) is you shoved over an EP raise, and in my hand I was shoving over a BTN who was regularly stealing from the BTN.
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Re: Preflop action at FT of 90 man. Line check on some hands.
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July 20, 2011, 12:26:40 AM »
Quote from: LoveBeefStew on April 17, 2011, 09:04:05 AM
Quote from: kwik on April 17, 2011, 08:40:51 AM
yo fletch whats up?
hands 1 and 2 .... snap folds!
shove those hands when ever there is an open pot or limpers only, if there is a raise before you, then you are beat, just fold the hand, unless you have a monster... all other hands will lose.
not an easy thing to do, as a matter of fact i didn't follow this advice last night, oh well...
Hand#256892CD26000655 - Tournament Table 13 T9620774 -- Table 1 -- $120/$600/$1,200 NL Hold'em -- 2011/04/16 - 23:25:11
Dealt to kwik1 [8h,As]
16PJ***6: folds
Vici***7: folds
REDL***10: folds
neck***1: folds
Butt***2: raises to 5,040
sabe***3: folds
kwik1: is all in 5292.0000
Butt***2: calls 1,452
kwik1: shows [8h As]
Butt***2: shows [Kc Ac]
*** FLOP *** [Js,7c,Th]
*** TURN *** [4h]
*** RIVER *** [7h]
***SHOW DOWN***
Butt***2: wins 14,424 with Pair of Sevens with Ace , King kickers
kwik1 finished 14 out of 107 players.
Please just don't listen to this. EVER.
This...
Hand 1-3 are all easy shoves... I might fold the 22 if it is relatively close to the QJos shove though, it seems like the very next hand so I would prolly fold it.
I am folding the K9 and A3, then jamming the QJs bvb
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